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Patient’s Perspective
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/3iiaW32KVKUAJyLh0D0fJw
Introduction: This issue is a letter of explanation from a family member of a patient who was deceived and harmed by Chen Caisheng. She believed Chen Caisheng’s daily online public account promotions claiming he could treat various difficult and complicated diseases, especially cancer, with good results. She took her father to Chen Caisheng for treatment, but her father’s condition not only didn’t improve but worsened until he passed away. The patient publicly shared the true experience but was maliciously slandered by Chen Caisheng, who distorted the facts and illegally leaked the patient’s personal information. The patient’s family has reported to the police and sought lawyers to protect their rights. For details, please read the full text.
My Father and I Were Slandered
When I saw Chen Caisheng appear as a victim in his public account yesterday, I was not surprised, but I was angry about his criminal act of disclosing others’ identity information. His words were full of slander like “scoundrel, liar,” thinking how greatly he was injured. I tried to contact Chen Caisheng on WeChat to say it’s fine for him to insult me, but asked if insulting other people’s parents had any humanity. The message was not sent because I was blocked; calling him was unsuccessful. Then I called Chen Caisheng’s female apprentice (responsible for grinding and mailing medicinal herbs, claiming to be his apprentice). She answered and I told her that disclosing my mother’s identity information is illegal. She evaded and said she didn’t know about it and would convey it to him.
Note: Chen Caisheng’s original posts did not mask any information and fully disclosed patients’ names and home addresses. For respect and protection of patient privacy, we have masked identity information in content extracted from his posts.
I thought the other party would reflect and did not report to the police immediately, then studied the content Chen Caisheng published carefully, and found that he was still using his method of twisting black and white, selectively recalling to create a drama of himself as a victim. But his chat record excerpts were too few, so I will add more so readers can better understand Dr. Chen’s “Great Medical Sincerity.”
Restoring the Truth
This is Dr. Chen’s initial consultation form.
Dr. Chen’s public account claims to specialize in treating problems that Western medicine cannot solve, claiming that even cancer is no problem. I, being newly out in society, believed there was hope to save my father, so I was deceived by Dr. Chen’s persuasion.
Later, when I went to his home, I saw the medicinal powder was just raw medicine ground directly with no regard for the pesticides and heavy metal residues being mixed in. This way, patients were exploited for half a month and charged 2220 yuan.
When problems arose, Dr. Chen disappeared; after taking his powder for a week, my father developed ascites. The initial effect was that my father was frightened by the hospital and calmed down for three days on his own.
Later, he blamed eating dumplings. He still persuaded me to transfer money. At the onset of ascites, he used laxative pills. Since taking them, my father’s condition deteriorated, appetite decreased gradually, and limbs weakened. Later, I saw a group friend’s post stating that using laxatives on cancer patients to injure their stomach qi is tantamount to killing.
The pills were still laxatives, the powder recipe never changed. When collecting money, did Dr. Chen feel any guilt? Even the patient’s disclaimer was obtained through deception.
Later, he even prescribed such large laxative pills; the body could no longer hold on.
My father and I found Dr. Chen, his reason was that the illness was too severe and he could not cure it. We were greatly disappointed. The next day at noon, we set off to go home. On the way, my father could hardly walk. I needed to earn medicine fees, so I asked my father to stay at Dr. Chen’s place a little longer while I went to bring my mother to care for him. My father explained to Dr. Chen, who called the police to provide proof, but that night Dr. Chen still called some relatives to escort my father out.
I called Dr. Chen the best doctor in the world. When my parents went to Dr. Chen, they were induced to sign disclaimers. My mother said when they went to Dr. Chen’s place, he called relatives to surround the door. My mother asked me to delete the chat records with Dr. Chen, saying it was for my own good, because Dr. Chen had many people and power, could turn black into white, and we couldn’t afford to provoke him. Yesterday, Dr. Chen illegally disclosed my mother’s information; my mother was mentally disturbed. In the afternoon, Dr. Chen still did not deal with the photos, so I chose to report to the police. After contacting the Géchuān police station, the photos were removed. Please, Dr. Chen, show mercy and let us ordinary people go. You can scorn the law; indeed, you are formidable. You also claim to represent Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM), even more remarkable! But if you dare to make excessive illegal actions again, I will never forgive you!
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Doctor’s Perspective
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The day before yesterday, a friend forwarded me an article from “Patient Friends Network” attacking me, screenshot forwarded as below:
What is the truth? Let me briefly explain the whole story from start to finish. First, I forward the chat excerpts between me and the patient’s son:
He mentioned above that his father’s physical exam report diagnosed late-stage liver cancer!! Continued screenshots:
I clearly wrote above, telling him to “go to the hospital for treatment for a while, and come to me if ineffective.” I never told him not to go to the hospital, right? Further screenshot:
From the chat record above, his father’s symptoms were already very severe. He had a hard lump in the right upper abdomen, poor appetite, weak legs, yellow urine. The tongue photo showed pale and dark purple tongue color, indicating yang deficiency and severe blood stasis. He usually drank a lot of water and took cooling herbs such as Yin Chen and Ban Lan Gen, further injuring yang qi. The worst thing was that he had been injected three times with “Yumiao.” Clinically, “Yumiao” often causes great harm to the body, not joking. He said above, “Western medicine said my father only has a few months to live.” If he went to the hospital, he would lose both money and strength. Would he dare say a word? Dare call hospitals liars? Only bullies afraid of the strong; this is the inherent bad character of these ignorant people. Facing such a serious illness, did I lightly accept his case? No. He and his parents all signed disclaimers, screenshots below:
Above, patient’s son Liu Xiao personally wrote the disclaimer, saying if it didn’t work, it was not my responsibility and that he would not blame me, and only then did he agree to the treatment.
What happened next? The patient requested to stay at my house for treatment, which I agreed to. Unexpectedly, after one day, the couple and their son Liu Xiao no longer wanted to stay and said they were uncomfortable and wanted to leave. To leave, let them go. Unexpectedly, on the way back, the son Liu Xiao went back home alone, leaving his seriously ill father and asked him to return alone to stay at my house. Without the son’s personal care, leaving a seriously ill father alone at my home—if any accident happened, how could I explain? This son seemed to want to frame me. So I had to call the police. The police told Liu Xiao’s father no one can be forced to stay without the owner’s consent. So they went to a hotel in the city. Liu Xiao’s conspiracy failed. This is what he said in the article, that I “called several relatives” to drive his father away. But I actually called my local police. Screenshots of chat records forwarded below:
Above screenshot from “Patient Friends Network,” although not stating Liu Xiao’s slanderous accusations, but liver cancer patients I treated online last year were only Liu Xiao’s father, so I am certain that slanderous article was written by Liu Xiao. To let friends understand the truth, I spent half a day to briefly describe the events above.
Since March 10th, he said there were only a few days of medicine left; later, lost contact. I don’t know how he is now. The hospital had said that his father only had a few months to live, but now it has been a year. Suddenly, he posted online saying my medicine made him worse; is that a rogue’s talk? I have repeatedly told them that if it doesn’t work, don’t blame me, then I treated him. Now it doesn’t work, they call me a liar. Who is deceiving whom? Who wants to harm whom? Also forwarding their disclaimer below:
If Liu Xiao’s father has passed, there are several reasons:
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The illness was originally very severe.
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Failure to strictly follow the medical advice; I heard he ate meat-filled dumplings, causing worsened abdominal distension. Chat records are available as evidence:
Dietary restrictions should be strictly observed. Once violated, death often follows immediately, many examples exist.
He mentioned above that his condition had improved: urine color changed from yellow to pale, “appetite normal” — previously “greatly reduced appetite”; “legs and feet stronger than before.” If he had followed instructions patiently, there might have been hope for cure.
- He tried to leave his severely ill father at my home alone without care. An elderly severely ill person, thousands of miles from home, wants to live alone at my house — can I agree to that? This caused a doctor-patient dispute and estrangement. If doctor and patient can’t agree, the patient’s family acts arbitrarily with no respect or courtesy to the doctor — can the disease be cured? A strange story indeed. Judging by Liu Xiao’s tone of voice towards me in the last chat calling me “the world’s best doctor,” shows how despising he was. So from March on, we lost contact.
Yesterday, a netizen told me the patient passed away more than ten days ago in the hospital. The hospital’s medicine isn’t “unqualified products,” so why couldn’t they cure your father’s illness? But many critically ill patients treated with my “unqualified products” have recovered.
Doctors dedicate themselves to curing and saving lives, exhausting effort and heartache. Yet patient families speak ill and slander doctors, which is truly disheartening.
Friends are welcome to forward and promote national righteousness.
Right and wrong will be judged; facts cannot be distorted.
Folk TCM doctor Chen Caisheng, recorded on 2023.12.12, revised on the morning of the 13th.
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Peer Perspective
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Yesterday afternoon, I saw a message in a group linking to an article of a quack claiming to be TCM and arguing with a patient. This swindler claimed to specially treat difficult and complicated diseases, giving patients powdered herbs and charging 120 yuan registration fee, practicing medicine at home. The patient’s father matched the symptoms treated by this swindler, who also cited other patients he treated as examples. When the patient had issues, he cited his own experience with no problems to persuade the patient to continue. This person truly does not understand pattern differentiation. Finally, he said the hospital killed the patient, and the patient’s family wouldn’t harass the hospital.
This example already reveals the characteristics of swindlers disguised as TCM:
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Specialty in treating difficult and complicated diseases, especially incurable diseases like cancer with high mortality. Why target these? If things go wrong, they push blame to Western medicine and hospitals. They treat many to death, and are fine with it. So why is it that when TCM is involved, it’s a problem?
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Degrading Western medicine, hospitals, looking down on TCM students educated in colleges, thinking they are superior, claiming to represent TCM. They shirk responsibility by blaming Western medicine for deaths, while TCM supposedly saves no one. Given their denigration of Western medicine, naturally, they don’t understand Western medicine, nor do they vaccinate. Some say Western medicine’s side effects are huge and harmful, or that Western medicine always cuts via surgery, some say vaccines are frauds.
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Prescriptions are non-transparent, labeled as secret formulas, often powdered or pills. Powders are directly ground from Chinese herbal pieces; pills need binders, which cost more, so fees are high. Decoctions (soup medicines) act quickly; pills and powders act slowly and suit long-term use.
Most importantly, pills and powders make it hard to confirm ingredients or identify them, so even if they use low-cost poor-quality drugs to make powders, they sell them at high prices. This behavior equals fraud, and it’s a one-size-fits-all formula.
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Fees are expensive, usually paid upfront, often several thousand yuan. If pills are made with honey, the highest price is about a thousand yuan, not several thousands or direct finished products. They exploit patients’ urgency for treatment to cheat.
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Mystification: they claim miracles, going to mountains for secret formulas, enlightenment, etc. The more mysterious, the better. Some mystify TCM concepts. For example, I heard of a person in Northeast China named Li Shanen, late-stage cancer who got help from a master and a book that made him cough blood for three days and nights, then recovered.
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Victims are often low-education people urgently seeking treatment, and some who do not trust Western medicine. The fraudsters’ education is probably low. The former easily get scammed medically and in other respects due to limited exposure and poor recognition ability. The latter, who trust only TCM and distrust hospitals, will inevitably get scammed.
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No fixed medical practice place, like ancient itinerant doctors or “Ling Yi” (calling them so is praising these swindlers). They see patients at home, don’t have licensed practicing doctor certificates or professional qualifications, or failed exams multiple times, and claim Western medical knowledge exams harm people.
They disparage TCM students educated in colleges and claim licensing exams suppress TCM’s development (claiming they represent TCM; suppressing self = suppressing TCM). Famous ancient doctors Li Shizhen and Sun Simiao never had medical licenses but weren’t banned. Their addresses were mostly in villages or suburban areas.
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They speak recklessly and make claims out of thin air. They say they can cure that difficult disease; a person ill for ten years was cured with three doses of his medicine, or without medicine, using so-called food therapy or treatments between medical and non-medical, such as exercise and tapping therapy. For example, someone claimed to cure thyroiditis, pharyngitis, kidney deficiency, athlete’s foot, etc. I said tapping the gallbladder meridian prevents thyroiditis, but he didn’t even know where the gallbladder meridian is. Another claimed he could treat patients discharged from ICU after three months to be lively again to prove his skills. Sometimes they create their own theories or medical systems.
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Mysterious confidence combined with narrow worldview. Most examples are individual cases, then they think hospital methods are bad, students from colleges are contaminated by Western medicine, so they are better and invincible.
Unaware that in their own knowledge and views, they truly are invincible. They met someone who ‘reversed aging and became childish,’ a 67-year-old saying he looks like 27, who only runs and practices martial arts — a style he invented. For those who wish to rejuvenate, contact me to meet this master.
- They think TCM development is hindered by Western capital suppression; Western medicine controls TCM, TCM has no say; vaccines and all Western medicine during the pandemic are Western capital conspiracies; hospitals are investments by America, a big conspiracy; practitioner exams including chemistry and molecular formula (not my words; current exams don’t have this, but maybe in past) are also conspiracies to block TCM development. Because TCM is cheap, Western medicine and surgery are scams for money.
If three or more points match, no doubt it’s a swindler. Their claims are often inaccurate or flawed. Please correct me!
Hope fewer are scammed, not delaying treatment, and recover soon! This scam is different from simple money fraud; it scams money and life, and should be eradicated by all.
Finally, I want to say this article may infringe on some people’s interests, but being upright is not afraid of shadows. I apologize in advance for blocking your money route!